Stan Earnest: Golf clap.
Craig Scholes: I have mixed feelings on it. I don't know what I was expecting, but I didn't
love it. I liked it; I’m not
disappointed. But I don't think it’s the
best finale ever.
SE: So tell me what finale was better?
CS: Friday Night Lights.
SE: I take it Landry lives in that one? I should say kills.
CS: Yeah, but that’s not what made it great.
SE: Here is what made this great: Walt wins, and Jesse wins.
Everybody wins.
CS: Walt didn't win.
SE: Walt was going to die anyhow. This way he saves Jesse
and finds a way to get money to his family.
CS: I think it was a Plan B. It wasn't how he wanted to go out; it’s just the compromise he settled
for.
SE: I'm pissed that Jesse doesn't have a barrel of cashola
in the back of that El Camino.
CS: I hope Jesse goes "home.”
SE: Home is where the Hartwell is.
CS: I loved the fantasy of him woodworking.
SE: Ways it could have been better: 1. Bill Burr. 2. Walt crushes some blue with the butt of
the M60 and snorts it pre-battle. 3. Walt actually fires the weapon. 4. Jesse
leaves with money.
CS: I absolutely loved the erector set assassin kit. Lego
Mindstorm will be releasing their version next fall.
Meth Damon's reconstruction of the train robbery |
SE: I honestly don't see a better ending to this thing, other
than the fact that Jesse could have had Andrea waiting for him.
I just realized that "Baby Blue" is in reference
to the meth, first Tommy James and the Shondells and now Badfinger? How many
songs about blue meth are there?
CS: Well since blue meth isn't really a thing outside of the
Breaking Bad world, probably zero.
SE: If ricin really takes four days to kill, then Lydia
still has time to do some damage to Walt's family right?
CS: I thought it was two days.
SE: All I know is that they had to pay Laura Fraser a Walt
barrel to remove her makeup. Was that Charlize Theron from Monster?
CS: I didn't think she looked that bad. I think it was part
of the character because she was so concerned with how she was perceived, and
at that point she was as vulnerable as she could ever be.
SE: And watch out Dwight Schrute, the Walt barrel is giving
the Schrute buck a literal run for its money.
CS: I thought it would have been hilarious if Skyler just kept
blowing smoke in Walt’s face telling him to die.
SE: I was hoping Beneke would be there chilling on the sofa
watching Friends.
CS: I really don't get your obsession with Beneke.
SE: He should be dead for messing around with Heisenberg's
woman. But hey, another quaalude and she'll love me in the morning.
CS: I would have liked to have seen a scene where Walt is at
a stop light in the Volvo and Beneke shoots by blowing into a tube to make his
wheelchair cross the street.
SE: Fantastic. Damn you Gilligan, not all loose ends were
tied up! I wanted to see Huell all bugged out eating a rack of ribs in Robert
Forster's dungeon.
CS: I hope Bill Burr becomes a sketchy henchman for Robert
Forster now.
SE: Tell me it wasn't genius to bring Badger and Skinny Pete
back into action. Walt probably found them at Jesse's place still ripping on Chekhov's bongs.
CS: I think we have an opportunity for another spinoff: the
Badger and Skinny Pete assassin service.
SE: Walt's plan with Gretchen and Elliot was superb. I
couldn't help but to be full-on rooting for Walt at that point. All those
riches can't make up for missing out on that big ass Walt cock. Take that
Gretchen! Of course, she has had Elliot's ears to hang on to during cunnilingus
over the years.
CS: Boy was I wrong about them getting ricin'd. Walt's pride
really was his undoing.
SE: I called the Marty Robbins shit though. I put the
over/under on days in a row I listen to ole Marty at 7 and I'm taking the over.
CS: If you put those odds for me and set them at half a day.
Take the under.
SE: I feel like my dad and I put together the soundtrack for
Breaking Bad. For every random new track, there was a splash of
white-old-man-grew-up-in-the-70s twinge thrown in, fucking Boz Scaggs.
CS: But on the other hand they had that amazing song by Jose
Gonzalez in the teaser for the last episode. And that Lydia ringtone was
fucking creepy.
SE: Even if you just take these last eight episodes as the
final season, I don't see any other final season that was better. Breaking Bad
started as my own special show during Seasons One and Two, and then morphed into
the best television show ever. This would be like if I was a fan of the
Cleveland Browns since the 1950s and they suddenly won like ten Super Bowls in
a row. Thank you Breaking Bad. It was a wild ride.
CS: Overdramatic much?
SE: But maybe I just feel this way because the most recent
last season I remember is Dexter, the most blasphemous final season of a show
ever. That shit made the Sopranos ending look like the final ten minutes of
The Godfather: Part II.
CS: I'll get around to watching the last season of Dexter,
but I’m not looking forward to it.
SE: When it comes to Breaking Bad, I just associate with a
man eviscerated by his surroundings while trying to play fair.
CS: Play fair? How
did Walt ever play fair?
SE: Exactly, once he stopped playing fair a whole new world
opened up for him. That fantasy world he was so good at.
CS: “I did it for me. I liked it. I was good at it.”
SE: That's what I tell my wife when I play fantasy football. Very similar worlds.
CS: That's basically my excuse for procrastinating.
SE: You mean procrasturbating?
CS: I never put that off.
SE: Can we get a show about how to pull off Breaking Bad
stunts hosted by Richard Dean Anderson? Maybe this is how I'll describe
Breaking Bad to folks that haven't seen it: It's like MacGyver meets Scarface
meets Everybody Loves Raymond.
CS: Everybody Loves Raymond?
SE: Everybody Loves Walter Hartwell White. Yeah, in the
small segments of that show I've seen his wife is always busting his balls.
CS: I've never really seen it, so I'll take your word.
SE: You called it last week with Walt not being adept enough
to fire the M60, so it stays true to the show’s nature that Walt would blind the
Nazi's with science.
CS: I do like him putting the last bullet in Uncle Jack’s
dome. So do you have any last gushings about how your life won't be the same
without this show anymore?
SE: Well, I could really use the ten hours a week I have
been dedicating to the Bald Move podcasts and Sepinwall columns.
CS: Now what? Do we
start writing about Zero Dark Detroit, or Low Winter Scrotum, whatever the fuck
that fucking show is called.
SE: Every week the same three-word column: "This show
sucks." And then we just start talking about how much we miss Breaking
Bad.
CS: I'd just have to assume it still sucks, because no way I
actually watch any more of it.
SE: Walter could still become a zombie that runs into
post-apocalyptic Jesse. The new Walking Dead season looks like it needs a new
direction.
CS: I think I’m done with that show. I hate basically every character on that
show.
SE: Yeah, that show needs a Tuco. That reign of Cadillac
trunk fire reminded me of a Fourth of July when one of my narcissistic buddies
unwound like 1,000 packs of Black Cats into a bucket and then smoked around
them, and they all went up in a two-minute hellfire blaze.
CS: I think it would have been awesome if Walt let off the
trigger before he ran out of ammo to trick someone into standing up, and then
finished them off with the last few rounds.
SE: Then we wouldn't have the audience gifted Todd's murder
by Jesse. That thing was wrapped with more ribbons than a Christmas Day Lexus.
CS: We still could have had that, Landry ain't bright. Are
we not gonna talk about Flynn wearing Timberlands with Zubaz?
SE: Nah, let's just end on that image of Walt watching him
enter that apartment and close the door behind him. That is where most
lackluster shows would end it.
CS: What would have been the "Scooby-Doo" ending
for Breaking Bad?
SE: I was just wondering what the Stephen-King ending would
be. The Scooby-Doo ending would have Mike coming back to kick out the crutches
underneath Flynn, proving him to be the real mastermind as he tries to run
away.
CS: Flynn rips off his mask and turns out to be Tuco the
whole time and has been maintaining an abandoned amusement park. The Stephen-King
ending would have been aliens.
SE: An alien army of 1,000 Marie's on the crystal blue.
So even though guns were not ablaze for the full hour and a
half, we still love this episode right? I mean, nothing touches "Ozymandias," but
this was a nice solid home run while "Ozymandias" was the grand salami.
CS: Like I said, I liked the episode, didn't love it. It was a really good last season, but not the
best last episode for me. I have no
complaints with it. I think Gilligan did
the show right.
SE: You’re goddamn right.
7 comments:
Thoughts from someone not completely enamored with the show:
Definitely agree with Craig on this not being the best finale ever. FNL, Six Feet Under, The Wire, Party Down, Freaks and Geeks, Buffy, and Angel all come to mind almost immediately.
This finale was ultimately too kind to Walt. With the way everything ended, not only was everything tied up too neatly (especially for someone as prone to fucking things up as Walt, as Sepinwall pointed out), but it ultimately showed that the stakes were fairly low in the series on the whole. Jesse getting away was obviously going to happen, but Walt still [presumably] got money to his family, took out the guys who took out Hank in the desert, and did something he was going to do shortly anyway: die. Yes, Walt lost access to his family for the last few months of his life, but he still wrapped everything up in a nice little bow with really very little happening to his family. If Gilligan & Co. weren't fucking around Skyler would have been collateral damage, both for her complicity and in that there would have been serious long-term consequences for Walt having chosen his path. Having his family still get 1/8th of the money he earned while he met the fate that he was going to meet anyway ultimately still rewards Walt, which seems a cop-out, especially if Jesse had to watch Andrea get capped just last week.
Also, can't remember the promo from last week with any degree of certainty, but I think it might have been Junip (Gonzalez's band) not Jose Gonzalez. Was it "Line of Fire" (video here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wSaDElz7wSI)?
All that said, good work on everything, guys. While I didn't always agree with you guys in your unbridled enthusiasm for this show, I definitely enjoyed reading these.
Well thank you kind sir, I had fun doing it. I just hope the editing process never got to horrible for you. And the song was most definitely Jose Gonzalez. It was "How Low."
Nah, the editing was never horrible. I liked giving y'all a bit of guff, though, especially the transcribed texts week (which was all Stan's fault). I think "Line of Fire" must have just been used in a promo for something else. I remember it being in something, and I remembered JG's vocals last week.
I just saw the promo for the finale again while watching this week's Hell on Wheels. Definitely "Line of Fire" by Junip.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3HAQt2sKC_E
You are correct, I saw a promo that a fan made using "How Low" by Jose Gonzalez.
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